tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post2246983475803611827..comments2024-01-01T11:01:47.373-08:00Comments on jkkmobile: Microsoft bans touchscreens on ULCPCs! WTF!JKKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16337714049302892641noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-79127042863265192292008-05-24T01:10:00.000-07:002008-05-24T01:10:00.000-07:00Yeh! really time for mac to shear down microsoft.i...Yeh! really time for mac to shear down microsoft.if there sell osx to public.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-23686520992223317722008-05-16T16:03:00.000-07:002008-05-16T16:03:00.000-07:00I suppose the MS position makes sense, in that it ...I suppose the MS position makes sense, in that it helps to define different classes of machine - smartphones, MIDs, ULCPCs, subnotes etc. in terms of the features they do and do not have.<BR/><BR/>Look at what happened to auto manufacturers when such distinctions get blurry - everything becomes a "crossover", with needless filling and missing necessities. <BR/><BR/>The problem is that MS seems to be ignoring that I *really* want to buy something about the size of an eee 900, about the price of an eee 900, about the weight of an eee 900, running XP like an eee 900, but with a convertible form factor. <BR/><BR/>When this class of machine was first being touted, we were told that a primary target was the education sector. Leaving aside entirely the K-12 stage, the ULCPC segment is ideal for third level students. Cheap, light, simple, reliable, pretty, and easy to use like a notepad and pen, in a 'wallpaper' sort of way. <BR/><BR/>To hell with the *intended* breakdown of this segment in terms of form factor and features, the *actual* market will be dividing these machines up in terms of price points as much as feature sets. The proof of that is Sony's oh-so-long history of making small, light, pretty, practical but ludicrously expensive machines of similar type. <BR/><BR/>If Asus can squeeze in a TS without adding a zero to the price tag or ditching the eee's USPs [which include its price] then let them. Otherwise, Apple will step in and we'll have lovely OSX installs to go with the shiny white plastic. <BR/><BR/>MS tried to take the lead in boundary-pushing portables before, and failed miserably to make them catch on. For such a successful company to fail miserably to learn from mistakes is very very odd. <BR/><BR/>I've forgotten what my point was. Ah well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-50519455743654523742008-05-16T12:37:00.000-07:002008-05-16T12:37:00.000-07:00Microsoft is so desperate to kill XP that they fai...Microsoft is so desperate to kill XP that they fail to understand that people simply do not want Vista. They are hurting themselves by establishing these restrictions. For many consumers, it's either XP or Linux. Vista is hardly an option.<BR/><BR/>This is the one laptop market where Linux is an available option on all models, and it's either cheaper, or in the case of the 900, a much better equipped system. Microsoft has to see this! <BR/><BR/>By striking the discount on all future sub-notebooks (Atom @ <1GHz will likely not be as powerful as 900MHz Dothan) most consumers (who go with sub-notebooks because they are cheap) will refuse to pay the price premium for a system equipped with un-discounted XP, and will certainly not pay for bloated Vista. <BR/><BR/>Linux sub-notebooks are a much better deal. I really hope the manufacturers exploit the customizability and freeness of Linux, and produce models equipped with a very streamlined and feature rich distro. Just slapping any distro on a sub-notebook is not good enough (HP learned this with the MiniNote). <BR/><BR/>Now is the time and this is the market for Linux to really shine in a new, dark, and unexplored area.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-43553261251546459312008-05-14T17:06:00.000-07:002008-05-14T17:06:00.000-07:00If rumors of an Apple tablet pc running Atom with ...If rumors of an Apple tablet pc running Atom with OSX and touchscreen, then MS will regret this decision, as it will leave this market segment to Apple and LinuxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-38116328663801040442008-05-14T01:23:00.000-07:002008-05-14T01:23:00.000-07:00And of course letting ULPCs have the tablet versio...And of course letting ULPCs have the tablet version would be wrong. I guess they must have hired Gordon gecko from the Wallstreet movie. "Greed is good!"<BR/><BR/>I actually mailed ASUS begging them not to drop the dream of ULPC with touch. Not that it will help but at least I tried.Rackham Rödehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09967178483139743457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-31138033553422643622008-05-13T03:12:00.000-07:002008-05-13T03:12:00.000-07:00MS is dropping XP Pro and tablet next month, but w...MS is dropping XP Pro and tablet next month, but will continue to sell XP Home to oems making ULCPCs..<BR/><BR/>OEMs can continue selling XP for next 6 monts but after that only the ones that qualify to ULCPC program can sell this cheaper version...<BR/><BR/>..and only to limited hardwareJKKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16337714049302892641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-77212475440363830152008-05-13T03:04:00.000-07:002008-05-13T03:04:00.000-07:00Yes sadly this will impacts the larger companies p...Yes sadly this will impacts the larger companies projected sales calculations and shift the cost/revenue equilibrium for ULPC XP a fair bit. <BR/>Maybe even so far that actually developing and manufacturing ULPC Linux will be too costly and scrapped altogether... This bit of news completely ruined my day yesterday. I love Linux and I love touchscreens on ULPC´s. What happened with Microsoft dropping all support for XP?Rackham Rödehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09967178483139743457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-78058727801999843922008-05-12T12:58:00.000-07:002008-05-12T12:58:00.000-07:00it's not about the OS, but about the fact that thi...it's not about the OS, but about the fact that this can drive OEMs away from making touchscreen devices.<BR/><BR/>Which sucks.<BR/><BR/>..there will not be "XP Home that will cost you more". This OLCPC XP Home will be the only XP available for OEMS after six months.JKKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16337714049302892641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-54128493006830341232008-05-12T12:52:00.000-07:002008-05-12T12:52:00.000-07:00I-m fine with this decision too.One more reason to...I-m fine with this decision too.<BR/>One more reason to use cracked windows!<BR/>I think those MS people have become too rich but their only concern is how to become more rich.<BR/>No respect for the end user!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-57440674551798473402008-05-12T00:44:00.000-07:002008-05-12T00:44:00.000-07:00Hey, let's all ready into it. They're not BANNING...Hey, let's all ready into it. They're not BANNING touchscreens on ULCPC's, if you want a ULCPC with a touchscreen, it's just going to cost you more because you're not gonna get XP Home bundled for a cheap rate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-40960116032889206112008-05-11T09:13:00.000-07:002008-05-11T09:13:00.000-07:00This is quite an absurd limitation to try and enfo...This is quite an absurd limitation to try and enforce! Anyway, whats stopping us from adding our own custom touchscreens once we get the machine? I suppose it is a bit of a screw up for people that don't want to go and open up their PC, but for me it shouldn't be a problem.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01073224540161119242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-77859512516157067352008-05-11T06:26:00.000-07:002008-05-11T06:26:00.000-07:00jkk,Have you figured out how to do "touch screen" ...jkk,<BR/><BR/>Have you figured out how to do "touch screen" with the EeePC 900 yet?<BR/><BR/>If so, then can you leak some information?<BR/><BR/>Re: Microsoft? Well, they are trying to protect their Vista Tablet PC end, as we all know, and you have shown, that a device like the EeePC could do the same as the more expensive Tablets.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-46205304698916588412008-05-11T05:13:00.000-07:002008-05-11T05:13:00.000-07:00"I'm fine with this decision. Vista has better sup..."I'm fine with this decision. Vista has better support for handwriting recognition" <BR/><BR/>what good is handwriting recognition with no touchscreen.thazletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18187536925372319389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-57545359115880000592008-05-11T03:08:00.000-07:002008-05-11T03:08:00.000-07:00I'm fine with this decision. Vista has better supp...I'm fine with this decision. Vista has better support for handwriting recognitionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-20487508999438474042008-05-11T01:21:00.000-07:002008-05-11T01:21:00.000-07:00Now it the time to stock up on oem copies of XP :)...Now it the time to stock up on oem copies of XP :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-53032870890744746862008-05-10T19:38:00.000-07:002008-05-10T19:38:00.000-07:00Huh? Talk about opening the door for linux. It's n...Huh? Talk about opening the door for linux. It's not like it's impossible to incorporate linux into devices with a touchscreen. MS must really desperately want to kill XP to make room for Vista.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-79506385706815141092008-05-10T19:33:00.000-07:002008-05-10T19:33:00.000-07:00Linux kernel developers will not offer any discoun...Linux kernel developers will not offer any discount if OEM choose to use a touch screen device.<BR/><BR/>Humm :) I suppose now touch screen devices will start to drop prices with linux pre-installed ;)<BR/><BR/>I just don't understand why didn't Asus release the Eee PC 5 years ago... think about it.Miguel Silvahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00193657625647142750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-36440723904083540412008-05-10T18:02:00.000-07:002008-05-10T18:02:00.000-07:00oh no, no more wibraim because 1,2ghz, and touchsc...oh no, no more wibraim because 1,2ghz, and touchscreen. Totally absurd decision of microsoft.<BR/>All the problem is windows vista kill vista please, and make a new version of windows for this year.riddick75https://www.blogger.com/profile/08605328905927566927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-72630082116131415922008-05-10T17:00:00.000-07:002008-05-10T17:00:00.000-07:00That is not wisely for this company, i don't know ...That is not wisely for this company, i don't know why they do this to themselves, whenever they are trying to do the one good thing they end up doing zeros. They might have got the big idea after all, it's all about ones and zeros...Petrolias Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09447695965647626127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33183441.post-49627071444819102112008-05-10T12:16:00.000-07:002008-05-10T12:16:00.000-07:00one more reason to get of that windows train wreck...one more reason to get of that windows train wreck as soon as possible imo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com