Monday, May 11, 2009

Windows 7 on Viliv S5 UMPC


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My Installation notes:

Have USB keyboard ready as you will need it ones.

Plug in dvd or usb stick with W7 media on it.

Open BIOS, choose your media as first boot drive.. boot from it.

Continue with Windows installer.. You can use S5's joystick as mouse and OK key as left click by pressing menu key for few seconds. You need to unplug the DVD drive or USB stick to enter your name with USB keyboard... just swap back after typing.


Drivers and software:

All drivers are XP drivers from Viliv..

Install Atom IO Control first.. Device manager.. Action.. Add legacy hardware .. point to location.

Install S5 System software... Reboot later..

Install touch screen drivers.. Device manager.. Ps2 Mouse.. point to location.. choose Vista driver and reboot.


Copy Viliv Manager to desktop, run it and enable Wifi with it. Wifi driver instal fails.. go to Device manager.. SD8686 on network adapters.. Update driver.. point to location..


Connect wifi.


Start windows update, pick Intel graphics and Wifi on optional updates.. install.. wait...

Install chipset drivers.. with XP compatible as administrator.


Install USB Client drivers.. with XP compatible as administrator.

reboot

Enable bluetooth from Viliv manager.. drivers install automatically

Install GPS drivers.. Device manager.. Action.. Add legacy hardware .. point to location.



All drivers seems working fine and there has been no real issues other than a bit slow operation time to time.

It's really bad from Microsoft that they don't understand that we would like to use full tablet features on touch devices too... a simple "enable all tablet features" would be super...

Next up on S5: SSD and 3G stuff


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39 comments:

Anonymous said...

James Kendrick from JKONTHERUN reported not being able to use the touch screen in portrait mode, was his installation incomplete or are you seeing the same problem

HeartBeat said...

using usb hub would be useful JKK !

citivolus said...

JKK, we need your assessment of adding 3G BEFORE Dynamism's sale starts on May 14! The mod described on umpcfever seems well out of reach of most people!

riyadc said...

You should be able to make windows 7 think the S5 is a tablet pc though a registry hack as described here:
http://micropctalk.wetpaint.com/page/Inking+in+MS+Office+2007+With+Vista?t=anon

You may also need floattip from http://www.tweaks2k2.com/binfiles/floattip.zip

Those files are for xp/vista but should work on windows 7.

riyadc said...

Here is more info on the floattip file

Windows XP Tablet PC Edition will only activate the pop-up TIP icon for accessing the user text input panels on PCs with an active digitizer pen due to a conflict with the TouchKit application that drives the touch screens on the UMPCs. There is, however, a freely downloadable utility called FloatTip that will re-enable that functionality.

You can download the application from here, unzip the floattip.exe file and place it in your startup folder. Restart your S5 and you should find that the pop-up TIP now functions as intended.

jkk can you install these two files and see if they work? I dont have a s5 yet but should be getting it from dynamism tommorrow.

JKK said...

Nor rotated touch or floattip are working...

I have used floattip on other umpcs.. seems it doesn't work on 7

Anonymous said...

pretty silly for MS to only install touch bits on active digitizer tablets especially considering production of active screens has almost completely stopped.

its an overpriced dead technology that wont even exist by the time Windows 7 lifespan is over with.

HeartBeat said...

@citivolus

I don't think you have an easier option. You have to solder a Mini PCIe Socket and route an antenna beside replacing your Zif HDD with SDD.

But what is still not clear to me; Does the Viliv has anything but the Zif socket and the un-available Mini PCIe Socket?

Cause if this is the case then the only option is to install the SSD using the zif socket and one of the RunCore Mini Zif SSD that were designed for the Mini HP? and that is not the fastest SSD and you would be sacrificing your current 64GB HDD for 32GB SSD unless you want to pay $220 for the 64GB SSD.

I would use my Nokia hspda through bluetooth whenever I need to connect since my mobile is always in my pocket anyway.

Anonymous said...

I am waiting for the MiFi to launch on Verizon them my soon to arrive S5 will have mobile braodband without the mods.

Anonymous said...

Hi

Does anyone know if a 8mm 1.8" hdd would fit in the S5?

Anonymous said...

Probaby yes because Villiv is big brick 24mm! Umid with keyboard! only 18mm

Anonymous said...

"All drivers are XP drivers from Viliv"
The Viliv S5 Premiun package sold in US did not come with any CD, where can I find the drivers from Viliv

Anonymous said...

Does OneNote handwriting work with Win 7?

Anonymous said...

myviliv.com now had an English download section:

http://www.myviliv.com/eng/board/board_download/list.asp?a_gb=help&a_cd=15&a_item=0

Hat tip to Techfoamer (http://forum.pocketables.net/member.php?s=75db5cafa450a18be7d99cdf5f08afe8&u=2291) on Pocketables.net

Anonymous said...

I think it is a pity active digitizers have not taken up on UMPC.
While I think for UMPC it might be better to have a touchscreen(capacitive would be nicer) but it would be nice to have the best of two worlds with mixing these 2 technologies into the same machine.

apeguero said...

This install created a 100mb system partition and then wouldn't allow it to be installed in the 50 or so gig partition. This is even after formatting it. I gave up and restored it.

Duun said...

I change the hard drive with 1.8" 64GB Zif SSD. Changing and Installing Windows 7 was bit difficult but everything went well. When I started to install viliv manager and other viliv utilities, the bug started to coming out. The error message was "This program is only for viliv product" What can I do to avoid this error. Your advise please

Michael said...

JKK, so does the touch screen rotate now? I have been waiting to see if that would get resolved. I tried installing Windows 7 again, after seeing the new video, but I am having trouble getting it to boot off the flash drive. I installed it from within XP, but I cannot get it to accept my drivers. I decided to restore XP, and start over creating the flash drive and getting all the drivers again. (I may end up purchasing a DVD so I can install from a DVD if I cannot get it to boot from the USB drive.) As I was reading through the comments I saw that you had commented that the rotation was not working properly. Was that before the latest video? I got the impression from the video everything was working properly. I would rather not fight the machine to get Windows 7 installed, only to take it off anyway because of the touch screen not rotating.

Anonymous said...

Hello JKK, i have tried the 7 on viliv and it's works fine, but how to activate a tablet function and the keyboard ?
please can u help me

Paul said...

Any news on enabling the Tablet functionality on the S5 in windows 7

Paul said...

Hi,
Any news on enabling the Tablet functionality in Windows 7

JKK said...

Sorry now.. we might need to hack the tablet stuff.

You can open OSK from accessories/Tablet PC Anon..

Paul said...

Hi,
I have enable the TabletPC from Accessories and installed the FloatTip in this post (XP Compatability) and I have the Tip working in some apps (IE, Outlook) Does not work with Windows explorer. I can however lauch the Keyboard that is achored to the side od the screen

Cheers

OZ

Frank J Garcia - CTitanic said...

Having the TIP running does not mean too much. The fact is that W7 does not see the touch screen as a digitizer. The touch screen was made by eGalax and it seems to me that we have the same problem here than with the old Samsung Q1. To fix that I got the help of eGalax with a HID beta driver. May be installing this driver fix all this. I´ll check it today when I get back home.

nor500 said...

I installed viliv manager on windows 7, but it says Run only with viliv products, what can I do?

skylab said...

hi guys, just got a viliv S5 and i'm trying to install windows 7 on it.. but when i run the viliv manager it says run only with viliv products. is there a work around for this

JKK said...

u need to install manager in xp compatible mode.. right click it, choose Compatibility

skylab said...

Thanks for the info JKK, but i tried what you said and this time i get the message "Run Only With Viliv MID", i also find that when i use my stylus, the pointer is never where i tap, i alway have to tap with an offset to make sure i get the right button or selection.. i tried running the clibrate but it crashes/bluescreen or sometimes is says "Registtry not found"

JKK said...

are u using the latest manager from myviliv.com ? it should work fine.. run it as administrator too to make sure

here is fix for touch: http://forum.pocketables.net/showthread.php?t=3860&highlight=viliv

skylab said...

Well I've had nothing but failures trying to get win7 running on my viliv..while the OS installed, i just couldnt get anything else to work, i'll wait for official Viliv Drivers..I'v restored to WinXP..

Thanks for all the help everyone gave me.

Anonymous said...

Moro,
can u tell me where i can buy viliv s5 in finland.

JKK said...

You can't buy it other way than online..

Dynamism.com is shipping to finland too.

Anonymous said...

JKK,

Do these instruction apply for the Viliv X70 as well?

JKK said...

Mostly, yes.

Anonymous said...

Help! What kind of keyboard is this on the video, this is not the viliv keyboard! how did you get that working with the hardware button! I did not manage to work HID driver support (right klick, tip, etc) even with egalax beta drivers which i found for the x70. Any way to do this on the s5, seem in the video for you it worked on the s5. i still have unviversal serial bus marked with "?" ? whre are the drivers for that

Anonymous said...

I can't get the touch to work on windows 7. The viliv s5 won't install it. If anyone can give me some help, please e-mail me at saephan510@yahoo.com. I try what jkk said and follow the instruction, still don't work. Please HELP......

Anonymous said...

I have the same problem. Cant get Viliv Win 7 driver to install. It say the most current driver is already installed. Any help appreciated. bankman2@mac.com

Anonymous said...

yes here the same problem. so can anyone help us?

plz. email me if anyone can solf this problem. xiao896@gmail.com

David said...

I cant get the USB CLisnt driver to work, it installs but when I want to setup a share it els me that tehre was en error.

Also on the PC side it does not recognise the device.

With XP it was recognised as a USB drive with the host software.

Can you help me please

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